We are in a dilemma for the color. A close-up shot after 1 coat of finish. We have young kids at home so that makes a world of difference! The floors in Alexa’s room look so much livelier and brighter. The master bedroom had the biggest transformation. However, Loba is contracting with a reputable flooring contractor who will refinish my floors (again!) So maybe there is hope after all. would you recommend using Gold Coast to fix these issues? 3. I’ve been using Exterior, Flat, Latex DARK paint base, because it dries so invisible (and matte, of course) that you can’t tell there’s a finish. I would like to get white oak floors with the most natural finish possible. Your post was the most helpful!!! So 1) my current floors have zero stain, zero sealer. I was wondering how did the process of applying the selaer TOOK? I am in the same boat as you. How long does it take to dry, can you walk on it at thanks!! What do you think of the new floors? White oak is bit harder then red oak on the janka hardness scale (white oak is 1360 vs red oak is 1290). We only refinished the floors on our main level and the difference between proper and improper application is like night and day. It is a white paint with "increased topcoat properties", is a stand-alone finish when 3 coats are applied and does not require sealing with a topcoat. The reason being that brown can also be made up of yellow and red tones. 3 weeks in and still look/feel wonderful. I was there through most of the process cleaning and inspecting. Going to try and get a sample and hopefully can see if the 3 coats do the “oil stain” trick. (I’ll happily give a shout out to Valenti Flooring here.). When they scratch from kids/dogs you can just lightly sand and re-wax. Provides a build layer and prevents the finish from penetrating into the wood surface. You read forums written by others with no experience. I had other misgivings that I just swept aside because I was so focused on moving the project forward. All I can say is that Loba has preserved the natural tones and quality of the white oak that I found to be very beautiful. Thank you for sharing from your experience! Questions, though, for best recommendations on cleaning and on scratch repair? Do you think this parody will work for us? , Thank You for Your post. Well done for sticking with it. It didn’t look like the swatch that was pictured. Thank you for your post. If you are located in Long Island, I used Gold Coast Flooring and they were fantastic. I don’t know why I’m writing another post about my floors. In my first reno (a 1-bedroom coop), a guy named Carlos refinished my floors and I ended up using a nice stain that made the floors look more like walnut. With that being said, I’m not a sheen expert but my floors definitely appear to have a nice subtle sheen to me. So confused and a bit frustrated! Fast-forward to the present – I sold that apartment and am now renovating a 2-family townhouse that had no salvageable hardwood floor (the original flooring was wood plank subfloor). And now I’m going to bombard you with before (with Bona Birch stain) and after (with Loba 2k Invisible Protect AT) pictures. I now plan on having three coats of Loba applied instead of two. . I read countless forum posts and blog posts and reviews but I couldn’t find a satisfactory answer. As you can imagine, this is a frequent occurrence in our family of two young kids. I want to add that I was originally told by the Loba representative that only two coats of the Loba 2K Invisible Protect AT were necessary. May I please for pics? If I use polycrylic over the top (to protect from water rings from glasses).....will this yellow over time too? Your white oak MUST have a sealant used with it (or a sealing stain) before you put down the polyurethane. Thanks for this post, it’s been SUPER helpful in my process to getting the perfect white oak floor! Are they durable, are they scratching from chairs, kids, dropped toys, etc…? It’s been a couple months now and still no issues whatsoever. In your pictures, it looks as if you have somewhat of a “sheen”. I was immediately disappointed after the stain was applied. After a few hours of researching I thought I had found Bona, and then stumbled on your post. My floors definitely aren’t shiny so I’m hoping it’s better now! The main floor that I did with Loba is still beautiful. If you plan to use Bona, I don’t think you’ll have issues with Valenti. Thanks so very much for documenting this. I’m so happy to know I was able to help. It didn’t all seem the same (sort of blotchy). Unfortunately the contractor that worked on your floor is not responding to either of us. Don’t use a stain if you want natural floors. Dear M2M. I mentioned a You-Tube video for them to watch by Loba, I bought them all socks to make sure they were keeping the floor clean after finishes. This is true of my general contractor. Also, do you think it is practical to have the high traffic areas re-sanded and apply a 3rd coat, or could they spot treat areas?thanks!! In the end, why did you not choose either Bona finish, the Natural or Nordic Seal? Now, I need recommendations on a vacuum that is lightweight to quickly dust with. We have had Automatic blinds installed now. 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Still, you have to look really hard to be able to see anything. I’m not sure how it works? But, for whatever reason, I thought it would look better after it was finished. Because if your awesome post I just put three coats of Loba on new white oak floors. So we have decided to get in front of the issue and just say apply 3 coats and then the issues are not issues at all and the finish performs as advertised. In case folks want options I can vouch for 2 coats Bona Nordic seal with 2 coats Bona High traffic COMMERCIAL poly in matte for 100% flat natural look. I hope that my experience can be a lesson to others. We’re just about to refinish our white oak floors and this seems the route we want to go. I even considered Linseed Oil. Wish me luck!!! This product looks perfect. Do you think it was actually in the number of coats applied that your original contractor made the defining mistake, or could it have been something else (wrong grit sand paper? So when I spoke with Phil Valenti, he assured me they would have no issues working with Loba. I’m sure a hand scraped matte finish would look amazing as well but I have zero complaints with my floors. I can’t really comment on scratch repair as that is not something I’ve dealt with yet. Apparently, I can. Sorry for the late response but yes, that’s exactly why. I will be grateful. I never want to think about refinishing my floors again. Alway listen to your GUT. I’ve even dropped an oil-based substance on them. I was told that this was caused by the “lighting.”. Brilliant finish. At the very least, it’s given me complete peace of mind. Chris – Did you go with the nordic? Please understand that we manufacture the finish but do not contract the application of it or have control over those that apply our product. My first contractor most likely applied the product too thinly. 4. They were completely professional to work with and I never doubted their competency. After this happened – here, I have to give credit where credit is due – Loba agreed to make things right for me. White on red oak looks awful (PINK!!!). After all, I made them! Any natural finish advise on those would be appreciated!! No water/oil stains. Look at Bona NordicSeal + Bona Traffic HD. I was leaning towards the Bona Naturale, until I came across your post. Do you think it was just the number of coats they applied? I only used Loba. In the final picture you posted, your floor seems to have taken on a little bit of a grey tint- it’s very pretty but I was hoping to keep mine in the tan color. Glad you got them taken care of they are beautiful! Our entire main floor is white oak floors. You’ll have to stand your ground! Our 4 1/4 white oak floors are being sanded tomorrow. Helped us decide to go with 3 coats of Loba invisible. So excited to have found this blog! My white oak floors have become very orange tinted. Lesson #4. Thanks!!!! The wood is acclimating now in our cabin. I don’t know what type of wood the oak is…how do you know if it’s white or red oak? Learn how your comment data is processed. Enjoy. It is not recommended for use on darker exotic hardwoods such as Iroko as it may produce a slightly milky or white film effect on the surface. It was also their first time using Loba 2K Invisible Protect AT. And don’t be like me. You can take my word for it when I say that the floors look less red and even better in person. Spot clean with microfiber cloth or handheld vacuum, as needed Thank you for this inordinately helpful post. What plank width and length did you have? The NordicSeal is ALLOWED two coats (and it makes for a very tough base coat with 2 coats)!!! My friends restained their entire floor in dark walnut and I thought it looked amazing! I know it’s unlikely to get a response two years out, but Christine, can you comment on how you finish your white oak cabinets? I was even going to buy a plank of wood and some sample stains so I can see what to do. What were your reasons for not choosing NordicSeal? Thank you for this post! I would love to see it because that is what we have. We also have white oak floors that we’re trying to update to a more modern finish and your post is so thorough that I feel better prepared to consider our finish. Basically, you put another coat of finish on and you are a little happier. I’m renovating and luckily the whole house has white oak (previously stained dark) and I’ve laced new white oak into the old where need be. I also looked into the Swedish finish but I have no regrets with using Loba which aired out after only a few days. Because I can’t see them in real life, I’m wondering how you would characterize the color of your floors other than “natural”. Contractor says all of that is normal! My husband is a woodworker and used it in his shop (2 coats properly applied) and it holds up even in that tough environment. And will use three coats! Do you have any pictures you could share of the red oak floors used with this finish? I acknowledge that they are under no obligation to do so as it would appear that the finish was applied incorrectly. I was more concerned about preserving the tone and color of the wood and that has been beautifully accomplished. It has solved our 8 week white oak floor stain dilemma! (After initial sanding, we also revealed numerous pet urine stains that had been hidden by the dark stain, which we had to repair by weaving in new hardwood… but that’s a story for another blog…). Previously, even water would stain the wood until it evaporated. I find that it gives a more classic and elegant feel to a home. We are considering Bona Naturale and Loba. I have rung Loba and they said to give it a couple of washes with their special spray mop and see how it is, but I don’t think that will fix the roughish surface I said about applying another coat and they said no, that def shouldn’t be necessary! Sharing your experience has saved me a lot of heartache going forward. I would like to add that I had my floors done with Bona Traffic 2 years ago, and I have the same issues with the stains in the floor from baby food. Thanks for the post. Also do you have a contact number for the company? I suspect you’d want to steer clear of certain products (Murphy’s oil soap, for example). I consider Loba invisible for birch wood. Feel free to ask questions – I’m more than happy to save people from going through the aggravation I went through. My own renovation has new white oak floors throughout the first floor, ready to be sanded, bleached and finished to look pale and natural. The first contractor I used that applied Loba had a great reputation for Bona products but it was their first time applying Loba and they did an inadequate job. My installer installed red oak, even though he knew I wanted a white-washed look. The Natural Collection is subtle and soft with light tones mixed with warm whites. This is how we maintain our floors: 1. Thank you! He said that sanding the wood correctly and well was the most important step. We just did our new white oak quartersawn floors with the Loba Invisible — absolutely love it. Almost all prewar floors here are red oak, traditionally finished with a butterscotch stain. I love no shine, but am nervous that the floors will look to flat/dull with Loba. Not sure why you are personally offended by my relaying of the facts of the situation. Your floors are gorgeous! HOWEVER, I’m assuming their 2 coat recommendation is only sufficient when the contractor makes no errors in application. Was it because you liked how it preserved the natural tone? I also wanted something that was going to last a long time. Thanks for this super helpful blog post. We chose the wire brush white oak and wanted a natural finish. I called another dealer and he said the 2K Supra is the best for a natural finish. Hi gd, would you mind sharing pictures? WOCA is the best of the best. $14.79. I am scouring the internet looking for photos of floors using stain vs. natural finishes. Just make sure that he follows the instructions and steps provided by Loba. DOES ANYONE NOTICE WHAT THE WHITE STAIN IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE?!
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